Mormon bigot Nancy Ormson, manager of Ormson Hearing Health Care of Amarillo, Texas, called Michelangelo Signorile to complain about how Mormons were being “persecuted.” Apparently, if you hurt somebody and they criticize you for it, that’s persecution.
A Mormon “Yes on 8″ Supporter Calls In
Both Nancy and Michelangelo made some historical errors in their conversation; I’m trying to overlook that.
It’s worth a listen, just to hear how the haters don’t think. For Nancy Ormson, the “extermination order” against the Mormons, issued in 1838 by the Governor of Missouri, justifies anything the Mormons might do to anybody else. “We were persecuted,” she says in effect, “so anything we do to anybody else is justifiable.”
Mormons love to talk about the “extermination order.” Ask them how many people were killed under that order, they get very vague all of a sudden. Ask them how the number of people killed under the “extermination order” compares to the number of unarmed civilians the Mormons massacred at Mountain Meadows, and they get very touchy. One does not talk about Mountain Meadows. It’s an insult to talk about Mountain Meadows. All in the past and so irrelevant, you know. Not like that extermination order.
Mormons love to talk about how they’ve been persecuted. Their “martyrs” usually turn out to have been martyred under questionable circumstances — their martyred prophet Joseph Smith, for instance, was killed in a gun battle with a mob after ordering the destruction of an opposition printing press, and their martyred apostle Parley Pratt was killed by the husband of a woman with whom Pratt had run off — but there’s no denying they’ve experienced some measure of persecution.
Why they feel that justifies their persecuting others is beyond me. Why Nancy Ormson thinks she’s being persecuted if people mention her name is beyond me, too. One thing I know for certain: Nancy isn’t being “persecuted” (i.e., having her name mentioned) for her religious beliefs, but for forcing her religious beliefs on others.
Bill.
You are a friend, and always will be and I’m not questioning your right to be angry, mad, pissed off, etc. I’m not questioning you at all actually. I’m just unsubscribing from your blog until further notice. You have every right to say everything and anything you said on your blog, but I cannot read it anymore at the current time, it is too much for me to handle from someone I respect. You know where to find me. You know I’m always fighting for you. You are still my friend and you always will be.
~Becky~
P.S. I wasn’t sure where else to write you this message.
I came upon this page by way of Michelangelo Signorile’s website. I have read the sum of the article, and I find it totally astonishing how correct you are!
I was raised Mormon and grew up in the heart of Mormon culture, Salt Lake City, Utah. We were never allowed to discuss Mountain Meadows, in the Utah State History classes only textbooks that kept that incident to a minimum were allowed. Mormons are raised thinking we are the most persecuted people in the world.
I don’t really need to add to what you said other than to add this….
To Becky,
I felt terrible reading what you had to say to your friend. I understand that you are abstaining because (as it sounds likely that you are Mormon) your faith tells you so.
Just this last Saturday my cousin, the most committed LDS person in my family, came to me and cried as she said sorry for what the church had just done. I told her that it does not hurt me, and I love her even more for being so caring and loving of me.
I know there are many more people out there in the LDS faith that feel that way, and I hope that you can grow beyond voting with church leadership.
Thanks..
No, I’m not abstaining because my Church tells me so, I’m abstaining because right now I can’t handle this in my life. I have too many people hating me from both sides.
I’m a Mormon who is bisexual and is against such hate legislation as Prop 8. That should clear it right up for you.
Don’t every assume you know everything about a person just because you’ve read a few sentences.
Let me make it very clear so you don’t ASS.U.ME anymore.
-I am against Prop 8
-I’m a Mormon
That leaves me with shit on both sides of the spectrum. Many of my GBLT friends can’t stand that I’m a Mormon and hate me for it and most of my Mormon family and friends are highly disappointed in me and say rude things.
It is hard to be where I am, and right now I don’t even want to hear stuff about Prop 8. I want California to shoot down that shitty piece of legislation (if that’s what you can call) it give the people what they had and more.
So.
Don’t ever assume you know something about somebody again.